Minutes of 7 May 2003 IEEE 1364 Working Group Meeting

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Date: Wed May 07 2003 - 14:07:21 PDT

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    Meeting called to order 8:35 May 5th, 2003

    Attendence:
       Today
       |
       v
       A aaaaaaaaa Anders Nordstrom <asic@sympatico.ca>
       A a-a---aaa Clifford E. Cummings <cliffc@sunburst-design.com>
       A aaaaaaaaa Dennis Marsa <drm@xilinx.com>
       - -------aa Erich Marchner <erichm@cadence.com>
       A aaaaaa-aa Gordon Vreugdenhil <gvreugde@synopsys.com>
       A aaaaaaaaa James A. Markevitch <jam@magic.com>
       A aaaaaa-aa Karen Pieper <pieper@synopsys.com>
       A aaaaaaaaa Michael McNamara <mac@verisity.com>
       A aaaaaa-aa Steven Sharp <sharp@cadence.com>
       A aaaaaa-a- Charles Dawson <chas@cadence.com>
       A aaaaaaaa- Shalom Bresticker <Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com>
       A -aaaaaaa- Stefen Boyd <stefen@boyd.com>
       - aaaaa-aa- Stuart Sutherland <stuart@sutherland-hdl.com>
       - ---a--aa- Tom Fitzpatrick <fitz@synopsys.com>
       - --------a Peter Flake <peter.flake@synopsys.com>
       A aaa----aa Brad Pierce <brad.pierce@synopsys.com>
       - -a------- Mehdi Mohtashemi
       A aa------- Kurt Baty
       A --------- krisha@synplicity.com

    PAR approved by IEEE, available at
      <http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/1364.pdf>
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    Shalom reported on conversation with Andy Ickowitz (our IEEE editor):
    First, the IEEE made an attempt at fixing these, and deleted 62 pages!

    In any case, they agree that we can fix code lines, footnote numbering
    style, fix incorrect cross references, we will make the table of
    contents as we desire (mostly three, sometime two, or one), index we
    will do, index can now use page numbers, some corrections from A to B
    we can do correctly, we can fix any typographical, and we can even fix
    errors in code samples.

    And finally, we will make the PDF, which they will print.

    Shalom will prepare a list of issue numbers, which he is implementing;
    people can suggest additional, or suggest removing some.

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    Approval of the minutes of the last meeting:
      Anders amended the minutes, to correct email addresses; Cliff moved
      for acceptance as amended, Anders seconds, Sharp abstains, minutes
      are approved.
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    Verilog-AMS: Sharp, Shalom contacting analog people to become part of
      1364; perhaps incorporate some into the language, some as a Analog
      Mixed Signal 1364.2 standard. Cadence, National, Motorola, Texas
      Instruments. Differential equations, connect modules, arrays of
      parameters, Some changes are rather adhoc. New type called wreal
      (real wire). New math function added. Call for participation of
      AMS in 1364. Goal is to make superset langauge that encapsulates
      AMS.
    ---------
    BTF report: Steve Sharp
      Standard voting procedures? informal vote in task force; at the VSG.
      Still figuring out a good time to meet.
    ---------
    IEEE 1364-2005: first step, form requirements document. Cliff/Kurt &
    Anders will get together and for a list of things for Verilog-005, for
    presentation at the IEEE BOF at DAC. Charles will feed in issues from
    PLI. The team will start from items that were considered, but did not
    make it into '95. The team will present the working document at the
    IEEE 1364 meeting which is tenatively scheduled for Tuesday, June 3rd,
    from 1 to 3pm, in the Anahiem Hilton (adjacent to the convention
    center).

    How about Verilog-AMS? Kurt - I'd like there to be a single superset
    language that accepts all subsets (Verilog-AMS, 1364, et cetera). Math
    should be the same; and syntax accepted. Need to unify Verilog-AMS and
    2001's methods for access to bits of hierarchial references. Steve &
    Gordan & Shalom will try to find a AMS person to join BTF.

    Then at 9:40 am the committee proceeded to review ETF items up for
    approval:

    Key: O: 'Opposed' A: 'Abstain' F: 'Favor'

    Issue 140 Fails
    Against: James, Kurt, Krishna, Karen, Brad, (5)
    Abstain: Anders, Cliff, Stefen, Charles (4)
        For: Steve, Shalom, Dennis, Gordon, (4)

    Issue 142 O: none A: Steve Sharp. Passes
    Issue 145 O: none A: none. Passes
    Issue 146 O: none A: none. Passes
    Issue 148 O: none A: none. Passes
    Issue 149 O: none A: none. Passes
    Issue 150 O: none A: none. Passes
    Issue 151 O: none A: none. Passes
    Issue 153 Passes O: Cliff A: Steve, James, Krishna.
              F: Brad, Shalom Gordon, Karen, stefen, kurt, dennis.
    Issue 154 O: none A: none. Passes
         Ammend. remove extra or
    8:30 of 27th of May, next VSG meeting

    VSG meeting ended at 10:30; next meeting is May 27th, at 9:00 am.

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