IEEE 1364 Verilog WG is collecting user input for next generation of the verilog language

From: Kurt Baty (kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com)
Date: Wed Jun 11 2003 - 12:48:02 PDT

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    Dear People,

            I would like to request that the IEEE 1364-2005 Verilog
    Standards Committee's working group be allowed to hold a meeting
    at the ICU conference to collect user input on user needs for the
    for the next generation of the Verilog language.

            thank you

            Kurt Baty

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    > I will do everything I can to allow this reciprocity. The User's Group
    > is run completely independantly of Cadence so my input may be limited,
    > but I can certainly try. I don't anticipate a problem.
    >
    > Hey Fitz, we can carpool (for the rest of you, he lives 5 minutes from
    > me)!
    >
    > Jay
    >
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    > Jay Lawrence
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    > Functional Verification
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    > From Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com Wed Jun 11 14:14:09 2003
    > From: "Tom Fitzpatrick" <Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com>
    > To: "Kurt Baty" <kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com>, <Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com>,
    > <lawrence@cadence.com>
    > Cc: <Joanne.Wegener@synopsys.com>, <David.Kelf@synopsys.com>,
    > <David.Rich@synopsys.com>
    > Subject: RE: user input meetings
    > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:21:35 -0400
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    > Hi Kurt,
    >
    > Works for me. I'll be at BostonSNUG and, assuming Cadence allows it I'll be
    > at ICU as well. Maybe Jay and I can carpool (since we live near each other).
    > 8-)
    >
    > Thanks,
    > -Tom
    >

     
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Kurt Baty [mailto:kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com]
    > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:11 PM
    > > To: Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.COM; lawrence@cadence.com
    > > Cc: Joanne.Wegener@synopsys.COM; David.Kelf@synopsys.COM;
    > > David.Rich@synopsys.COM
    > > Subject: RE: user input meetings
    > >
    > >
    > > > I assume that by "other non-SNUG attendees" for Boston-SNUG,
    > > you mean folks
    > > > from Cadence (among others). I have no problem with that, but I
    > > would like
    > > > to see Cadence reciprocate and let some Synopsys folks attend the same
    > > > meeting at ICU.
    > >
    > > yes, I said.
    > >
    > > > > Synopsys agreed to allow other non-SNUG attendees to come to
    > > > > this data gathering. Cadence might be willing to do the same.
    > >
    > > > I think it might be best if you can contact Cadence and arrange for the
    > > > reciprocity. Please let me know if you need any help with this,
    > > as I might
    > > > be able to talk to Jay to help make it happen.
    > >
    > > I think that this will happen. Jay what do you think?
    > >
    > > > It would probably be most fair to have the same person moderate both
    > > > discussions, if someone will be attending both. I'll offer my
    > > services to
    > > > capture the results of the SNUG discussion.
    > >
    > > I am planning to fly to Boston/NH two weeks in a row to do this.
    > >
    > >
    > > > >I will need shills for both conferences, Cliff are you coming?
    > > > >and someone to type or write as Mac did at DAC, volunteers?
    > >
    > > > It would probably be most fair to have the same person moderate both
    > > > discussions, if someone will be attending both. I'll offer my
    > > services to
    > > > capture the results of the SNUG discussion.
    > >
    > > maybe you and jay (you are both MA/NH local) could come to both?
    > > adding to the fairness.
    > >
    > > feedback?
    > >
    > > kurt
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > > From Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com Wed Jun 11 13:58:46 2003
    > > > From: "Tom Fitzpatrick" <Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com>
    > > > To: "Kurt Baty" <kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com>
    > > > Cc: "Joanne M Wegener" <Joanne.Wegener@synopsys.com>,
    > > > "Dave Kelf" <David.Kelf@synopsys.com>,
    > > > "Dave Rich" <David.Rich@synopsys.com>
    > > > Subject: RE: user input meetings
    > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:06:15 -0400
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    > > > Hi Kurt,
    > > >
    > > > I assume that by "other non-SNUG attendees" for Boston-SNUG,
    > > you mean folks
    > > > from Cadence (among others). I have no problem with that, but I
    > > would like
    > > > to see Cadence reciprocate and let some Synopsys folks attend the same
    > > > meeting at ICU.
    > > >
    > > > I think it might be best if you can contact Cadence and arrange for the
    > > > reciprocity. Please let me know if you need any help with this,
    > > as I might
    > > > be able to talk to Jay to help make it happen.
    > > >
    > > > It would probably be most fair to have the same person moderate both
    > > > discussions, if someone will be attending both. I'll offer my
    > > services to
    > > > capture the results of the SNUG discussion.
    > > >
    > > > Please keep me involved as things move forward.
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > -Tom
    > > >
    > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > > From: owner-btf@boyd.com [mailto:owner-btf@boyd.com]On Behalf Of Kurt
    > > > > Baty
    > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:29 AM
    > > > > To: etf@boyd.com; ptf@boyd.com; btf@boyd.com
    > > > > Subject: user input meetings
    > > > >
    > > > >
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    > > > > I will need shills for both conferences, Cliff are you coming?
    > > > > and someone to type or write as Mac did at DAC, volunteers?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > kurt
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
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    > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:38:14 -0500 (CDT)
    > > > > From: Kurt Baty <kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com>
    > > > > To: etf@boyd.com, ptf@boyd.com, btf@boyd.com
    > > > > Subject: user input meetings
    > > > >
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    > > > >
    > > > > try 2
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > I propose that we do "at least" two more user input data
    > > > > collections for the IEEE 1364-2005 standard.
    > > > >
    > > > > It was proposed at the IEEE 1364-2005 user input meeting
    > > > > at DAC that we might collect user input at the Synopsys
    > > > > user group (SNUG) conference in Boston, Synopsys people
    > > > > at the DAC meeting agreed that this would be okay.
    > > > > Since I am on the SNUG technical committee, after the
    > > > > IEEE meeting at DAC, I called Joanne Wegener (SNUG Boston
    > > > > 2003 Conference Manager) who coordinates SNUG conference,
    > > > > and we will get part of the ballroom for lunch on the main
    > > > > day. Attendees can have an undisturbed lunch or
    > > > > be pestered for user input on the future of Verilog.
    > > > >
    > > > > http://www.snug-universal.org/northamerica/na_boston.htm
    > > > >
    > > > > One week later the Cadence users group (ICU) is meeting
    > > > > in New Hampshire. I think we could get permission to
    > > > > gather data at the Cadence users conference also.
    > > > >
    > > > > http://www.cadenceusers.org/
    > > > >
    > > > > Synopsys agreed to allow other non-SNUG attendees to come to
    > > > > this data gathering. Cadence might be willing to do the same.
    > > > >
    > > > > I think this will collect good user data in a very fare fashion.
    > > > > The advantage is that we will have this done by September 17
    > > > > and collect input from perhaps several hundred interested users
    > > > > including ASIC, FPGA, board and system users and at the Cadence
    > > > > users group, analog users as well.
    > > > >
    > > > > Two possible letters
    > > > >
    > > > > One to John Cooley at ESNUG and after we get all the permissions
    > > > > and times:
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > John, could you please insert into ESNUG the following announcement:
    > > > >
    > > > > The IEEE 1364-2005 Verilog Standards Committee's working group
    > > > > is collecting user input on user needs for the for the next
    > > > > generation of the Verilog language. We have arranged for two
    > > > > user input meetings locations. At SNUG in Boston [date, time].
    > > > > As well as at the Cadence users (ICU) Conference in Manchester,
    > > > > New Hampshire [date, time].
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > To SNUG or ICU attendees:
    > > > > The IEEE 1364-2005 Verilog Standards Committee's working group
    > > > > is collecting user input on user needs for the for the next
    > > > > generation of the Verilog language. We will be collecting user
    > > > > input at your conference [date, time] Please attend and give
    > > > > us the feedback we need to advance the next generation of
    > > > > the verilog language.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > feedback everone?
    > > > >
    > > > > kurt
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
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