From: Kurt Baty (kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com)
Date: Wed Jun 11 2003 - 12:48:02 PDT
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Dear People,
I would like to request that the IEEE 1364-2005 Verilog
Standards Committee's working group be allowed to hold a meeting
at the ICU conference to collect user input on user needs for the
for the next generation of the Verilog language.
thank you
Kurt Baty
FYI the e-mail trail:
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> From: "Jay Lawrence" <lawrence@cadence.com>
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> I will do everything I can to allow this reciprocity. The User's Group
> is run completely independantly of Cadence so my input may be limited,
> but I can certainly try. I don't anticipate a problem.
>
> Hey Fitz, we can carpool (for the rest of you, he lives 5 minutes from
> me)!
>
> Jay
>
> ===================================
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> Senior Architect
> Functional Verification
> Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
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> From Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com Wed Jun 11 14:14:09 2003
> From: "Tom Fitzpatrick" <Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com>
> To: "Kurt Baty" <kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com>, <Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com>,
> <lawrence@cadence.com>
> Cc: <Joanne.Wegener@synopsys.com>, <David.Kelf@synopsys.com>,
> <David.Rich@synopsys.com>
> Subject: RE: user input meetings
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> Hi Kurt,
>
> Works for me. I'll be at BostonSNUG and, assuming Cadence allows it I'll be
> at ICU as well. Maybe Jay and I can carpool (since we live near each other).
> 8-)
>
> Thanks,
> -Tom
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kurt Baty [mailto:kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:11 PM
> > To: Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.COM; lawrence@cadence.com
> > Cc: Joanne.Wegener@synopsys.COM; David.Kelf@synopsys.COM;
> > David.Rich@synopsys.COM
> > Subject: RE: user input meetings
> >
> >
> > > I assume that by "other non-SNUG attendees" for Boston-SNUG,
> > you mean folks
> > > from Cadence (among others). I have no problem with that, but I
> > would like
> > > to see Cadence reciprocate and let some Synopsys folks attend the same
> > > meeting at ICU.
> >
> > yes, I said.
> >
> > > > Synopsys agreed to allow other non-SNUG attendees to come to
> > > > this data gathering. Cadence might be willing to do the same.
> >
> > > I think it might be best if you can contact Cadence and arrange for the
> > > reciprocity. Please let me know if you need any help with this,
> > as I might
> > > be able to talk to Jay to help make it happen.
> >
> > I think that this will happen. Jay what do you think?
> >
> > > It would probably be most fair to have the same person moderate both
> > > discussions, if someone will be attending both. I'll offer my
> > services to
> > > capture the results of the SNUG discussion.
> >
> > I am planning to fly to Boston/NH two weeks in a row to do this.
> >
> >
> > > >I will need shills for both conferences, Cliff are you coming?
> > > >and someone to type or write as Mac did at DAC, volunteers?
> >
> > > It would probably be most fair to have the same person moderate both
> > > discussions, if someone will be attending both. I'll offer my
> > services to
> > > capture the results of the SNUG discussion.
> >
> > maybe you and jay (you are both MA/NH local) could come to both?
> > adding to the fairness.
> >
> > feedback?
> >
> > kurt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com Wed Jun 11 13:58:46 2003
> > > From: "Tom Fitzpatrick" <Tom.Fitzpatrick@synopsys.com>
> > > To: "Kurt Baty" <kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com>
> > > Cc: "Joanne M Wegener" <Joanne.Wegener@synopsys.com>,
> > > "Dave Kelf" <David.Kelf@synopsys.com>,
> > > "Dave Rich" <David.Rich@synopsys.com>
> > > Subject: RE: user input meetings
> > > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:06:15 -0400
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> > > Hi Kurt,
> > >
> > > I assume that by "other non-SNUG attendees" for Boston-SNUG,
> > you mean folks
> > > from Cadence (among others). I have no problem with that, but I
> > would like
> > > to see Cadence reciprocate and let some Synopsys folks attend the same
> > > meeting at ICU.
> > >
> > > I think it might be best if you can contact Cadence and arrange for the
> > > reciprocity. Please let me know if you need any help with this,
> > as I might
> > > be able to talk to Jay to help make it happen.
> > >
> > > It would probably be most fair to have the same person moderate both
> > > discussions, if someone will be attending both. I'll offer my
> > services to
> > > capture the results of the SNUG discussion.
> > >
> > > Please keep me involved as things move forward.
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Tom
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-btf@boyd.com [mailto:owner-btf@boyd.com]On Behalf Of Kurt
> > > > Baty
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:29 AM
> > > > To: etf@boyd.com; ptf@boyd.com; btf@boyd.com
> > > > Subject: user input meetings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Precedence: bulk
> > > >
> > > > I will need shills for both conferences, Cliff are you coming?
> > > > and someone to type or write as Mac did at DAC, volunteers?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > kurt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Begin Included Message -----
> > > >
> > > > >From owner-etf@boyd.com Wed Jun 11 08:39:51 2003
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> > > > owner-etf@boyd.com using -f
> > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:38:14 -0500 (CDT)
> > > > From: Kurt Baty <kurt@wsfdb.wsfdb.com>
> > > > To: etf@boyd.com, ptf@boyd.com, btf@boyd.com
> > > > Subject: user input meetings
> > > >
> > > > Precedence: bulk
> > > >
> > > > try 2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I propose that we do "at least" two more user input data
> > > > collections for the IEEE 1364-2005 standard.
> > > >
> > > > It was proposed at the IEEE 1364-2005 user input meeting
> > > > at DAC that we might collect user input at the Synopsys
> > > > user group (SNUG) conference in Boston, Synopsys people
> > > > at the DAC meeting agreed that this would be okay.
> > > > Since I am on the SNUG technical committee, after the
> > > > IEEE meeting at DAC, I called Joanne Wegener (SNUG Boston
> > > > 2003 Conference Manager) who coordinates SNUG conference,
> > > > and we will get part of the ballroom for lunch on the main
> > > > day. Attendees can have an undisturbed lunch or
> > > > be pestered for user input on the future of Verilog.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.snug-universal.org/northamerica/na_boston.htm
> > > >
> > > > One week later the Cadence users group (ICU) is meeting
> > > > in New Hampshire. I think we could get permission to
> > > > gather data at the Cadence users conference also.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.cadenceusers.org/
> > > >
> > > > Synopsys agreed to allow other non-SNUG attendees to come to
> > > > this data gathering. Cadence might be willing to do the same.
> > > >
> > > > I think this will collect good user data in a very fare fashion.
> > > > The advantage is that we will have this done by September 17
> > > > and collect input from perhaps several hundred interested users
> > > > including ASIC, FPGA, board and system users and at the Cadence
> > > > users group, analog users as well.
> > > >
> > > > Two possible letters
> > > >
> > > > One to John Cooley at ESNUG and after we get all the permissions
> > > > and times:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John, could you please insert into ESNUG the following announcement:
> > > >
> > > > The IEEE 1364-2005 Verilog Standards Committee's working group
> > > > is collecting user input on user needs for the for the next
> > > > generation of the Verilog language. We have arranged for two
> > > > user input meetings locations. At SNUG in Boston [date, time].
> > > > As well as at the Cadence users (ICU) Conference in Manchester,
> > > > New Hampshire [date, time].
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To SNUG or ICU attendees:
> > > > The IEEE 1364-2005 Verilog Standards Committee's working group
> > > > is collecting user input on user needs for the for the next
> > > > generation of the Verilog language. We will be collecting user
> > > > input at your conference [date, time] Please attend and give
> > > > us the feedback we need to advance the next generation of
> > > > the verilog language.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > feedback everone?
> > > >
> > > > kurt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- End Included Message -----
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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