Minutes of the July 28th IEEE 1364 Working Group Meeting

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Date: Mon Jul 28 2003 - 09:57:37 PDT

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    Meeting called to order 8:30 July 28th, 2003

    Attendance:
      Today
      |
      v
      A aaaaaaaaaaaa Michael McNamara <mac@verisity.com>
      A aaaaaaaaa-aa Steven Sharp <sharp@cadence.com>
      A aaaaaaaaa-aa Karen Pieper <pieper@synopsys.com>
      A aaaaaa----aa Brad Pierce <brad.pierce@synopsys.com>
      A a-aaaaaaaaaa James A. Markevitch <jam@magic.com>
      A a-aaaaaaaaaa Anders Nordstrom <asic@sympatico.ca>
      A a-aaaaaaaaa- Shalom Bresticker <Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com>
      A a-aaaaaaa-a- Charles Dawson <chas@cadence.com>
      A a-a-aaaaaaa- Stefen Boyd <stefen@boyd.com>
      A a----------- Drew Lynch <drew@verisity.com>
      A a Jay Lawrence <lawrence@cadence.com>
      A -aaaa------- Kurt Baty
      A --a--------- Krishna Garlapati <krishna@synplicity.com>
      A ---aaaaa-aa- Stuart Sutherland <stuart@sutherland-hdl.com>
      A ------a--aa- Tom Fitzpatrick <fitz@synopsys.com>
      A a Francoise Martinolle <fm@cadence.com>
      A a Dennis Brophy <dennisb@model.com>
      - aaaaaaaaa-aa Gordon Vreugdenhil <gvreugde@synopsys.com>
      - a Steven Dovich dovich@cadence.com
      - a Karen Bartleson <Karen.Bartleson@synopsys.com>
      - --aaaaaaaaaa Dennis Marsa <drm@xilinx.com>
      - --aa-a---aaa Clifford E. Cummings <cliffc@sunburst-design.com>
      - ----a------- Mehdi Mohtashemi
      - ----------aa Erich Marchner <erichm@cadence.com>
      - -----------a Peter Flake <peter.flake@synopsys.com>

    1) The Chair read the IEEE patent policy presentation.

    2) The group discussed Shalom's amendments to the minutes (as he sent in
       via email) of the previous meeting, amendments which were accepted
       unanimously by the committee, and the minutes as amended were
       approved.
      
    3) Report of the 2001c Project

    Shalom reported he has finished editing the body of the document;
    still needs to do contents and index. consisting of just the editorial
    errors. This work needs to be reviewed by the committee, to catch
    errors of omission and commission. An open issue is what to call the
    reprinted version; they will come up with something.

    Shalom has also prepared a document that list the approved substantive
    changes, which is in Andy's hands for editing, and will be attached as
    errata to the reprint. IEEE editor reports good progress.

    Mac to call Andy to push on decision on what to call the new edition;
    and to get schedule and reprint details firmed up.

    People from Cadence, Synplicity and perhaps Synopsys will review the
    text for accuracy and correctness.

    4) Report on User survey

    Jay Lawrence & Stu report that on Friday they sent out a sample of the
    proposed survey form. Shalom had three questions; it was decided to
    add a box for an optional email address, and a check box for 'I want
    to join the committee'. it was decided to reword item 45 'Enable the
    Future'. Brad raised issues on a number of other questions which were
    discussed. Some confusing items were removed. delete 48 and 49; adding
    line for additional suggestions to user_survey@verilog.com

    Motion made to approve this survey and authorize the User Survey
    Committee to use it to solicit input from users at forums in mid
    September.

    Moved by Kurt; Seconded by Brad.
    Motion passed unanimously.

    Attendees at the time were:

      A aaaaaaaaaaaa Michael McNamara <mac@verisity.com>
      A aaaaaaaaa-aa Steven Sharp <sharp@cadence.com>
      A aaaaaaaaa-aa Karen Pieper <pieper@synopsys.com>
      A aaaaaa----aa Brad Pierce <brad.pierce@synopsys.com>
      A a-aaaaaaaaaa James A. Markevitch <jam@magic.com>
      A a-aaaaaaaaaa Anders Nordstrom <asic@sympatico.ca>
      A a-aaaaaaaaa- Shalom Bresticker <Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com>
      A a-aaaaaaa-a- Charles Dawson <chas@cadence.com>
      A a-a-aaaaaaa- Stefen Boyd <stefen@boyd.com>
      A a----------- Drew Lynch <drew@verisity.com>
      A a Jay Lawrence <lawrence@cadence.com>
      A -aaaa------- Kurt Baty
      A --a--------- Krishna Garlapati <krishna@synplicity.com>
      A ---aaaaa-aa- Stuart Sutherland <stuart@sutherland-hdl.com>
      A ------a--aa- Tom Fitzpatrick <fitz@synopsys.com>
      A a Francoise Martinolle <fm@cadence.com>
      A a Dennis Brophy <dennisb@model.com>

    5) The chair then reminded everyone to send in IEEE roster data
       updates, and Join DASC by filling out the form at
       <http://dasc.org/dasc_membership_application.html>

    6) Then the group took up the next item on the agenda, which was to
       review and consider for approval the activities of the Errata Task
       Force.

    Those eligible to vote at this meeting were:

      A aaaaaaaaaaaa Michael McNamara <mac@verisity.com>
      A aaaaaaaaa-aa Steven Sharp <sharp@cadence.com>
      A aaaaaaaaa-aa Karen Pieper <pieper@synopsys.com>
      A aaaaaa----aa Brad Pierce <brad.pierce@synopsys.com>
      A a-aaaaaaaaaa Anders Nordstrom <asic@sympatico.ca>
      A a-aaaaaaaaa- Shalom Bresticker <Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com>
      A a-aaaaaaa-a- Charles Dawson <chas@cadence.com>
      A a-a-aaaaaaa- Stefen Boyd <stefen@boyd.com>
      A -aaaa------- Kurt Baty

    Those present, but not currently eligible
      A a-aaaaaaaaaa James A. Markevitch <jam@magic.com>
      A a----------- Drew Lynch <drew@verisity.com>
      A a Jay Lawrence <lawrence@cadence.com>
      A --a--------- Krishna Garlapati <krishna@synplicity.com>
      A ---aaaaa-aa- Stuart Sutherland <stuart@sutherland-hdl.com>
      A ------a--aa- Tom Fitzpatrick <fitz@synopsys.com>
      A a Francoise Martinolle <fm@cadence.com>
      A a Dennis Brophy <dennisb@model.com>

    Those seeking more information on these issues are directed to
    http://www.boyd.com/1364_btf, where one can access these items by
    issue number. As is usual practice, these matters are presented to
    the VSG by one of the chairs of the task force; discussion ensues; and
    only votes of those opposed or abstain are noted.

    Issue 6: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Anders

     Steven Sharp raised issues with wording; Shalom modified it to:
     "Parameters may be redefined using the defparam statements (12.2.1)
     or module instance parameter value assignments (12.2.2) within the
     generate scope."

    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 13: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Steve

    Amendment: Replace the following example

    module tb4;

      // declarations & code ...

      // mod_a instance with ILLEGAL mixture of parameter assignments
      // by order and by name

      vdff #(10, .delay(15)) mod_a (.out(out_a), .in(in_a), .clk(clk));
      vdff mod_b (.out(out_b), .in(in_b), .clk(clk));
      vdff #(.delay(12)) mod_c (.out(out_c), .in(in_c), .clk(clk));

    endmodule

    With

      // mod_a instance with ILLEGAL mixture of parameter assignments
      vdff #(10, .delay(15)) mod_a (.out(out_a), .in(in_a), .clk(clk));

    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 93: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Steve
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 117: Moved by Steve, Seconded by Karen
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 139: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 140: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Kurt
    Opposed: Steve Sharp
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue 232: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Brad
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 235: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Steve
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 236 was closed by the ETF.

    Issue 238: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 239: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Anders
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 243: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Anders
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 244: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Brad
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 249: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 259: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 260: Moved by Brad, Seconded by Karen
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 262: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 263: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Stefen
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 264: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 267: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    Issue 269: Moved by Karen, Seconded by Drew
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously

    7) Meeting was adjourned at 10:33am
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