Revised BTF minutes August 11, 2003

From: Steven Sharp (sharp@cadence.com)
Date: Mon Aug 11 2003 - 12:36:33 PDT

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    Minutes of BTF Meeting August 11, 2003

    Meeting started at 10:40 Pacific Time

    In attendance:
            Tom Fitzpatrick
            Cliff Cummings
            Karen Pieper
            Gord Vreugdenhil
            Brad Pierce
            Kurt Baty
            Don Mills
            Jay Lawrence
            Francoise Martinolle
            Steven Sharp
            Stefen Boyd
            Michael McNamara

    Passed minutes from July 28, 2003
      With amendment that Steven Sharp was in attendance.

    Jay Lawrence reported that the Enhancement Guideline Group is working on
    a document containing a mission statement and set of deliverables for the
    EGG. So far, there will be 3 deliverables: a process for taking an
    enhancement through to a proposal, guidelines for extending the language
    (including an attempt to codify the "spirit of Verilog", and a list of
    the language elements [such as data types, operators and system tasks]
    and what they should be used for), and a checklist or template to be
    filled out as part of making a proposal, which would include anything
    that did not follow the guidelines.

    There was discussion of the need to prioritize the enhancements to
    first add the ones that add language features that could be used to
    implement other enhancements. Kurt moves that we create a subgroup
    to analyze existing enhancement requests and prioritize them by the
    potential dependency of other enhancements on them. Brad seconds
    this. Nobody opposes or abstains. However, nobody volunteers to
    lead this group. Kurt moves that we put a request for a volunteer
    into the minutes and see whether we get one by the next meeting.
    Jay seconds. No oppose, no abstain. During the discussion, the
    question was raised of entering SystemVerilog extensions into the
    prioritized list. Steven and Jay expressed the opinion that this
    should be done by entering those extensions as IEEE enhancement
    requests and then prioritizing them with the other IEEE enhancement
    requests, as a matter of proper procedure.

    Kurt reported that the user feedback session at SNUG was approved
    by Synopsys. Karen asked whether this would be open to the public,
    or only to SNUG attendees. She had heard a rumor that it might only
    be open to SNUG attendees. Kurt was asked to investigate.

    Jay reported that the session at ICU was approved, and that it should
    be open to anyone.

    Cliff asked about the August deadline for proposals. Jay referred
    to the actual wording in the VSG minutes. There was some more
    discussion of the appropriateness of the deadline, but this does not
    fall into the scope of the BTF.

    The next BTF meeting will be Aug 25 after the VSG meeting. Kurt may
    ask that we skip the Sep 8 meeting due to conflict with SNUG.

    There was no other business brought up, and the meeting was adjourned.



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