From: Steven Sharp (sharp@cadence.com)
Date: Mon Aug 11 2003 - 12:36:33 PDT
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Revised to show that Michael McNamara attended.
Minutes of BTF Meeting August 11, 2003
Meeting started at 10:40 Pacific Time
In attendance:
Tom Fitzpatrick
Cliff Cummings
Karen Pieper
Gord Vreugdenhil
Brad Pierce
Kurt Baty
Don Mills
Jay Lawrence
Francoise Martinolle
Steven Sharp
Stefen Boyd
Michael McNamara
Passed minutes from July 28, 2003
With amendment that Steven Sharp was in attendance.
Jay Lawrence reported that the Enhancement Guideline Group is working on
a document containing a mission statement and set of deliverables for the
EGG. So far, there will be 3 deliverables: a process for taking an
enhancement through to a proposal, guidelines for extending the language
(including an attempt to codify the "spirit of Verilog", and a list of
the language elements [such as data types, operators and system tasks]
and what they should be used for), and a checklist or template to be
filled out as part of making a proposal, which would include anything
that did not follow the guidelines.
There was discussion of the need to prioritize the enhancements to
first add the ones that add language features that could be used to
implement other enhancements. Kurt moves that we create a subgroup
to analyze existing enhancement requests and prioritize them by the
potential dependency of other enhancements on them. Brad seconds
this. Nobody opposes or abstains. However, nobody volunteers to
lead this group. Kurt moves that we put a request for a volunteer
into the minutes and see whether we get one by the next meeting.
Jay seconds. No oppose, no abstain. During the discussion, the
question was raised of entering SystemVerilog extensions into the
prioritized list. Steven and Jay expressed the opinion that this
should be done by entering those extensions as IEEE enhancement
requests and then prioritizing them with the other IEEE enhancement
requests, as a matter of proper procedure.
Kurt reported that the user feedback session at SNUG was approved
by Synopsys. Karen asked whether this would be open to the public,
or only to SNUG attendees. She had heard a rumor that it might only
be open to SNUG attendees. Kurt was asked to investigate.
Jay reported that the session at ICU was approved, and that it should
be open to anyone.
Cliff asked about the August deadline for proposals. Jay referred
to the actual wording in the VSG minutes. There was some more
discussion of the appropriateness of the deadline, but this does not
fall into the scope of the BTF.
The next BTF meeting will be Aug 25 after the VSG meeting. Kurt may
ask that we skip the Sep 8 meeting due to conflict with SNUG.
There was no other business brought up, and the meeting was adjourned.
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