Minutes of the August 25th meeting of the IEEE Verilog WG

From: Michael McNamara (mac@verisity.com)
Date: Fri Sep 05 2003 - 12:36:45 PDT

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    Meeting called to order 8:30 August 25th, 2003

    Administrivia:

     Next meeting is September 22nd, at 8:30 Pacific Time, same phone
     number. If you need to be reminded of the number, send email to
     vsg@verilog.com

     Meetings occur every fouth monday.

    Attendance:
      Today
      |
      v
      A aaaaaaaaaaaaa Michael McNamara <mac@verisity.com>
      A aa Francoise Martinolle <fm@cadence.com>
      A -aaaaaaaaa-aa Gordon Vreugdenhil <gvreugde@synopsys.com>
      A aaaaaaaaaa-aa Karen Pieper <pieper@synopsys.com>
                      Yong Xiao attending as Proxy for Karen
      A aaaaaaa----aa Brad Pierce <brad.pierce@synopsys.com>
      A aa-aaaaaaa-a- Charles Dawson <chas@cadence.com>
      A aa Jay Lawrence <lawrence@cadence.com>
      A aa-aaaaaaaaa- Shalom Bresticker <Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com>
      A aaaaaaaaaa-aa Steven Sharp <sharp@cadence.com>
      A Ennis Hawk
      A Alec Stanclulesco
      A Chong Guan Tan <tan@verisity.com>
      A a-aaaa------- Kurt Baty
      A a------a--aa- Tom Fitzpatrick <fitz@synopsys.com>
      A Don Mills <bill@lcdm-eng.com>
      A -----a------- Mehdi Mohtashemi
      A aa Dennis Brophy <dennisb@model.com>
      A David Smith
      A Keith Gover
      A Dave Rich

      - aa-aaaaaaaaaa James A. Markevitch <jam@magic.com>
      - aa-aaaaaaaaaa Anders Nordstrom <asic@sympatico.ca>
      - aa-a-aaaaaaa- Stefen Boyd <stefen@boyd.com>
      - aa----------- Drew Lynch <drew@verisity.com>
      - a--a--------- Krishna Garlapati <krishna@synplicity.com>
      - a---aaaaa-aa- Stuart Sutherland <stuart@sutherland-hdl.com>
      - -a Steven Dovich dovich@cadence.com
      - -a Karen Bartleson <Karen.Bartleson@synopsys.com>
      - ---aaaaaaaaaa Dennis Marsa <drm@xilinx.com>
      - ---aa-a---aaa Clifford E. Cummings <cliffc@sunburst-design.com>
      - -----------aa Erich Marchner <erichm@cadence.com>
      - ------------a Peter Flake <peter.flake@synopsys.com>

    1) The Chair read the IEEE patent policy presentation.

    2) Shalom noted that issue 265 was also passed, the group agreed
       unanimously; and the minutes were updated

     Steve Sharp moved, minutes as ammended passed unanimously.

    3) Report of the 2001c Project

    Shalom has reviewed his work; found one mistake; which he has fixed;
    he is working on table of contents. Goal is to finish in the next few
    weeks.

    PLI group would like to make documents in UML format, and provide them
    in file format. Mac to investigate to see if there are any issues.
    Francis to talk to Andy.

    4) Report on User survey

    Jay Stu, Kurt, Fitz: Jay sent out new mission statement, deliverables,
    checklist. Followup this week.

    Survey to be presented at:
    ICU September 15th 5:00-6:30 pm Birds of a Feather
    SNUG September 9th 12:35-1:45 pm Lunch provided

    Kurt: The management of the Synopsys Users Group (SNUG) said Cadence
    person (Jay) can not attend SNUG; Kurt contacted top level executives
    to get permission; and got a reluctant, "only if we felt this was
    totally required", could Jay attend. Synopsys also 'devolunteered'
    sending their employee (Tom Fitzpatrick) to the Cadence users group
    (ICU).

    Consensus of the working group was to respect the position of SNUG,
    and to instead send Kurt, Cliff & Stu to represent IEEE Verilog at the
    SNUG, as none of these individuals are viewed as competitors by SNUG.

    Also consensus is to direct the chair to send survey to Janick
    Bergeron and John Cooley.

    5) The chair then reminded everyone to send in IEEE roster data
       updates, which can be done at
       <http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html> and Join DASC by filling
       out the form at <http://dasc.org/dasc_membership_application.html>;
       it is time to renew DASC membership for next year.

    6) Kurt Baty proposed that we form a Coordination Task Force
       to sort through donations and enhancement by priority, impact, and
       task force, potentially proposing new tasks forces; and pass the
       work and suggested order to the other tasks forces. Second: Brad
       Pierce.

       Attendees at the time were:

    +-- DASC member
    |+- Attendee at meeting
    ||+ Has attended 3 of the last 4 VSG meetings
    |||
    vvv
    ** Alec Stanclulesco
    ** Chong Guan Tan
    ** David Smith
    ** Dennis Brophy
     * Don Mills
     * Ennis Hawk
    ** Keith Gover
    ** Mehdi Mohtashemi
    ** Tom Fitzpatrick
    --------------------
    *** Brad Pierce
    *** Charles Dawson
    *** Francoise Martinolle
    *** Gordon Vreugdenhil
    *** Jay Lawrence
    *** Karen Pieper
    *** Kurt Baty
    *** Michael McNamara
    *** Shalom Bresticker
    *** Steven Sharp

    Against: Charles Dawson#, Steve Sharp#, Dennis Brophy, Tom
       Fitzpatrick, Mehdi Mohtashemi
    Abstain: Jay Lawrence#, Gordon Vreugdenhil#, Chong Guan Tan, David
       Smith, Ennis Hawk, Keith Gover, Shalom Bresticker#
    For: Kurt Baty#, Francoise Martinolle#, Alec Stancluesco, Brad Pierce#,
       Karen Pieper#
    The chair did not vote.

    Of those enfranchised, the vote is 4 in favor, 3 abstaining and 2 against.
    The question came up on voting rules, and did had the group
    established a requirement for affirmative majority, or just a simple
    majority; and the mater was tabled until this could be determined.
    The chair has found nothing to establish that rules other than Roberts
    Rules of order apply, which would mean this would pass; however we
    will revisit this in the next VSG meeting.

    6) Then the group took up the next item on the agenda, which was to
       review and consider for approval the activities of the Errata Task
       Force.

    Those seeking more information on these issues are directed to
    http://www.boyd.com/1364_btf, where one can access these items by
    issue number. As is usual practice, these matters are presented to
    the VSG by one of the chairs of the task force; discussion ensues; and
    only votes of those opposed or abstain are noted.

    Charles left the meeting

    Issue 185: Moved by Shalom Seconded by Charles
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 186: Moved by Charles Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 187: Moved by Shalom, Second Charles
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 188: Moved by Charles Second Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 213: Tabled upon further review

    Issue 214: Moved by Charles Second Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 251: Moved by Shalom Second Charles
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 253: Moved by Shalom Second Charles
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 328: Moved by Shalom Second Charles
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    Issue 343: Moved by Dennis Second Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes unanimously as amended

    7) Meeting was adjourned at 10:37am

    Reminder: PLI task force today at 4:00 pm, email <chas@cadence.com>
       for details.
    Reminder: BTF meeting in five minutes, same number.

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