Minutes of BTF Meeting December 1, 2003

From: Kathy McKinley (mckinley@cadence.com)
Date: Mon Dec 01 2003 - 14:41:55 PST

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    Minutes of BTF Meeting December 1, 2003

    Meeting started at 10:40 Pacific Time

    In attendance:
            Kurt Baty
            Stefen Boyd
            Tom Fitzpatrick
            Ron Goodstein
            Keith Gover
            Ennis Hawk
            Francoise Martinolle
            Kathy McKinley
            Michael McNamara
            Mehdi Mohtashemi
            Karen Pieper
            Brad Pierce
            Steven Sharp
            Stu Sutherland

    Action Items:

            - Stefan to look into document access issues on web site
            - Steve to send BTF information to Ron
            - Kurt to send feedback on Cadence datatypes proposal to Kathy

    Meeting Summary:

    According to the official rules, the meeting minutes should not go into
    much detail -- the minutes are essentially a record of the motions that
    were passed. There is value to recording more information so that
    significant discussion, notes, and action items are captured too.
    We will continue with the more detailed style.

    The minutes from last week were approved with a verbal amendment
    (Mac was added to the attendance list). None opposed or abstained.

    Kathy reported that the Extension Guidelines Group is making progress.
    Drafts of the process flow and guidelines documents are under revision.
    The group is holding extra meetings to get the content in reasonable shape
    for an initial delivery to the BTF in mid-December. The next EGG meeting
    is Tuesday, Dec. 2 at 8:30 am PST.

    There was no IP encryption status (no representative present).

    There was no prioritization status (chairmain not present), other than
    a note that John Goodenough (spelling?) has volunteered to find an ARM
    representative to join this subcommittee.

    Steve gave a brief description of the subcommittees for newcomers:

        - Prioritization group prioritizes potential extensions

        - EGG group is setting up guidelines for process and high-level
          architectural view for extending language

        - IP encryption group is working on the encryption donation
          (essentially a vendor-neutral `protect)

    Steve will provide BTF information to Ron through email.

    Kurt reopened the issue of starting subcommittees to look at requirements
    for datatypes extensions and separate compilation. It was noted that
    the SystemVerilog datatypes definition is stable, and that there is much
    in common between the different datatypes proposals. On the other hand,
    there may be a benefit to waiting until the extension guidelines are
    available. There was some informal agreement that the datatypes and separate
    compilation subcommittees should probably be separate because of the
    magnitude of the work involved. Steve pointed out that in order to create
    a subcommittee, we need a formal motion and someone to chair the group.
    Kurt has a strong interest in driving the packages and overload issues,
    and may be interested in chairing the separate compilation group. There
    were no formal motions made on this topic.

    There was brief discussion of moving the BTF meeting. The monthly VSG
    meeting directly precedes the BTF meeting, which makes the BTF status
    two weeks out of date (the most recent BTF status is available right
    after the meeting). It is difficult to find a good time for everyone
    in different time zones. A possible solution is to reorder these two
    meetings in the same 3-hour slot. Steve pointed out that we may need
    more than one hour for BTF meetings as we get into the details for
    extensions. There was no motion to move the meeting, but it is possible
    that there will be one in the future.

    Action items from the previous meeting were reviewed:

        - Mac provided links on www.verilog.com to some, but not all, of the
          nine donations that we have so far. Stefen maintains the www.boyd.com
          site, and will look into problems with accessing some of the documents.

        - Kurt Baty is about a week away from sending feedback to Kathy
          on the Cadence datatypes proposal (his EGG work is taking priority).

    Meeting adjourned.

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