Minutes of the 15 Dec 2003 IEEE 1364 Working Group Meeting

From: Michael McNamara (mac@verisity.com)
Date: Tue Dec 16 2003 - 14:56:39 PST

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    Meeting called to order 8:30 December 15, 2003

    Administrivia:

    >>> Next meeting is January 26th, at 8:30 Pacific Time, same number. <<<

       NOTICE THAT THIS IS A DIFFERENT DAY THAT PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED

     Meetings occur every fouth monday thereafter. Web site is
     http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html

    Attendance:
     Today DASC member (D yes, - no)
     | |
     v v
     Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa D Michael McNamara <verisity>
     Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Steven Sharp <cadence>
     Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Karen Pieper <synopsys>
     Aaaaaaaaaaaa----aa D Brad Pierce <synopsys>
     Aaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaa- D Shalom Bresticker <motorola>
     Aaaaaaa-aaaaaaa-a- D Charles Dawson <cadence>
     Aaaaaaa D Francoise Martinolle <cadence>
     Aaaa-aa-aaaaaaaaaa D James A. Markevitch <Evegreen Technology>
     Aaaa-aa----------- D Drew Lynch <verisity>
     Aaaa-a---aaaaa-aa- D Stuart Sutherland <sutherland-hdl>
     Aaa--aa-a-aaaaaaa- D Stefen Boyd <boyd>
     Aaa-----aa-a---aaa - Clifford E. Cummings <sunburst-design>
     Aaa D Richard Ho (rep Curt Widdoes)
     Aa-aaa-aaaa------- D Kurt Baty <wfsdb>
     Aa----a D Steven Dovich <cadence>
     A D Ronald Goodstein

      aa-aaa D Dennis Brophy <model>
      a-aa D Keith Gover
      aaaaa D Alec Stanclulesco <fintronic>
      aaaa D Ennis Hawk <Jeda>
      a---a--a--------- - Krishna Garlapati <synplicity>
      aaaa-----a------- D Mehdi Mohtashemi <synopsys>
      -aaaa------a--aa- D Tom Fitzpatrick <synopsys>
      -a D Atsushi <Jeda>
      -a--aa-aaaaaaaaaa D Anders Nordstrom <cadence>
      --aa - Don Mills <lcdm-eng.com>
      --a--a D Karen Bartleson <synopsys>
      ---aaa D Jay Lawrence <cadence>
      ---a-aaaaaaaaa-aa D Gordon Vreugdenhil <synopsys>
      ---a D David Smith <synopsys>
      ---a D Dave Rich
      ---a D Chong Guan Tan <verisity>
      -------aaaaaaaaaa - Dennis Marsa <xilinx>
      ---------------aa - Erich Marchner <cadence>
      ----------------a D Peter Flake <synopsys>

    1) The Chair read the IEEE patent policy presentation,and refers all
       to http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html where a link to the IEEE
       policy is prominent.

    2) Kurt moves and James seconds approving minutes. None oppose, none
       abstain; minutes approved.

    3) Report of the 2001c Project: Circulated final version of
       2001c. Brad moves that we accept and approve for publication the
       IEEE 1364-2001 Version C document, Shalom seconds; none opposed,
       Charles Dawson, and Francoise abstain as they had not the time to
       read the document. Motion passes.

    4) Report on User survey

    5) Status of 2005 Draft 3: Shalom has implemented VSG passed
       changes. Need some clarification on certain issues (78, 158).

       Karen moves to have VSG meeting every fourth Monday, starting
       Januray 26th. ETF will meet every fourth Monday, starting January
       12th. Shalom seconds. None opposed, None abstain Motion passes
       unanimously.

    6) Report of BTF committee: Extensions Guide line Group. BTF will
       review the report of the group later today.

    7) Report from PLI task force will meet at 4:00 pm today, no report
       today.

    8) Report from ETF: did pass a number of items, for considerations.

    8) Then the group took up the next item on the agenda, which was to
    review and consider for approval the activities of the Errata and PLI
    Task Forces.

    Those seeking more information on these issues are directed to
    http://www.boyd.com/1364_btf, where one can access these items by
    issue number. As is usual practice, these matters are presented to
    the VSG by one of the chairs of the task force; discussion ensues; and
    only votes of those opposed or abstain are noted.

    Issue : 306 Made by Stu, Seconded by Charles
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: Shalom
    Motion passes

    Issue : 165 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 217 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 211 Made by Karen, Seconded by James
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Proposal on the web page was Modified by the ETF as follows: the
       sentences added to 12.2.3 are now:

      However, overriding a parameter, whether by a defparam statement or
      in a module instantiation statement, effectively replaces the
      parameter definition with the new expression.

    Issue : 325 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 380 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 467 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom

    ETF modified this (but it is not yet on the web page) as follows:

    Proposal was ammended by ETF committee to instead delete
    the sentence:

    "A function definition shall include an assignment of the function
    result value to the internal variable that has the same name as the
    function name.", and remove the word 'six' from the previous
    paragraph.

    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 504 Made by Karen, Seconded by James

    ETF modified this (but it is not yet on the web page) as follows:

    Simplification to BNF describing real and variable declarations.

    James proposes friendly amendment make replacement text read
    as follows:

    real_type ::=
    real_identifier { dimension }
    | real_identifier = constant_expression

    variable_type ::=
    variable_identifier { dimension }
    variable_identifier = constant_expression

    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 505 Made by Karen, Seconded by Brad
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 505 Made by Karen, Seconded by Brad
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 511 Made by Shalom, Seconded by Brad
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 515 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Karen moves adjourn.

    9:35 meeting adjourned.

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