BTF meeting minutes, 2-23-04

From: Kathy McKinley (mckinley@cadence.com)
Date: Wed Feb 25 2004 - 04:30:01 PST

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    In attendance:
            Kurt Baty
            Stefen Boyd
            Dennis Brophy
            Steve Dovich
            Ronald Goodstein
            Ennis Hawk
            Tom Fitzpatrick
            Francoise Martinolle
            Kathryn McKinley
            Brad Pierce
            Karen Pieper
            Steven Sharp
            Alec Stanculescu
            Stu Sutherland

    Action Items:
        - Stefen to set up subgroup reflectors this week
        - Kathy to send datatypes meeting minutes to BTF

    Summary:

    Minutes from Feb 9, 2004 were accepted. Dennis and Karen and Tom and Alec
    abstain. Nobody opposes. Passes.

    Steve Dovich spoke about IP protection group progress. The group is waiting
    for its reflector to be set up. In the meantime Steve provided the donation
    to those who do not have it yet.

    Stefen plans to set up the reflectors this week.

    Alec spoke about prioritization group progress. Alec and Shalom would
    like to prioritize enhancement requests without donations. This is
    important because these enhancement requests could affect the
    enhancements coming from donations. Alec asked who else would be
    interested in participating. Steven Sharp volunteered.

    Kathy spoke about datatypes group progress:

        - The datatypes group decided to adopt datatype orthogonality
          as a fundamental principle. Datatype orthogonality means that
          the update semantics of an object and the set of values that
          the object can have are independent of one another. The datatype
          of an object should not imply a particular object kind, or
          vice versa. New datatypes should be available for all kinds
          of data objects: parameters, variables, and nets.

        - The group is now exploring what datatype orthogonality means for
          the datatypes donations, beginning by examining the meaning of
          declarative keywords like "reg" and "logic".

        - SystemVerilog introduces an interface port. Interfaces do not
          have data values in the traditional sense, so for the time being
          the datatypes group is not treating an interface as a datatype.
          The datatypes group may decide differently later.

    Kathy will forward datatypes meeting minutes to the BTF after attendees
    have approved them by email. The next scheduled datatypes meeting conflicts
    with an Accellera meeting. The datatypes group has a lot to do, and
    should not go a month without meeting. The group will attempt to move
    the meeting to another day that week to avoid the conflict.

    The VSG approved the guidelines that the EGG proposed. EGG is now working
    on some BNF extension guidelines that Shalom has proposed. Due to conflicts
    with DVCon, the EGG meeting next Monday will likely be canceled. Kathy will
    send mail to the EGG group to establish next meeting time.

    Next meeting will be March 8, at 10:40 Pacific Time.

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