RE: More problems with your Apology...

From: William Paulsen (paulsen@cadence.com)
Date: Wed Mar 24 2004 - 07:24:40 PST

  • Next message: Michael McNamara: "RE: More problems with your Apology..."

    I suspect that these guidelines that restrict standards discussions
    apply only during official IEEE standards meetings.

    I think it would be difficult to restrict casual email discussions, such
    as here.

    Indeed, if email discussions must follow the restriction guidelines,
    then I would think that other informal discussions that occur outside
    IEEE meetings must also be restricted - such as informal discussions in
    hallways, for example, or even private emails.

    But how can these informal discussions be enforced?

    Bill Paulsen

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Clifford E. Cummings [mailto:cliffc@sunburst-design.com]
    > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:39 PM
    > To: btf@boyd.com; vfv@eda.org
    > Subject: Re: More problems with your Apology...
    >
    >
    > Hi, All -
    >
    > Please forgive me but I can't find the "second round of distribution"
    > mentioned by Alec and referenced by Mac. I know my original
    > email to the
    > btf and vfv reflectors had bad content but I cannot find the second
    > offending email (unless it is my response to Mac's email
    > where I replied
    > and kept his comments about my original bad references??)
    >
    > Please let me know what the "second round of distribution" is
    > referring to.
    > I promise I will appropriately apologize for that content too.
    >
    > I guess I need a generic EDA company to write me a generic
    > linting tool to
    > lint my emails for generic offensive content before I forward
    > comments to
    > the generic standards reflectors (this is getting way too
    > complicated!)
    >
    > Regards - Cliff
    >
    > At 03:28 PM 3/23/2004, Michael McNamara wrote:
    >
    > >And, as I pointed out in the meeting, these guidelines are
    > not based on
    > >whether one works for, or does not work for any company.
    > >
    > >Also these guidelines really have nothing to do with the
    > bylaws of the
    > >IEEE-SA; instead they have to do with the laws of the United States.
    > >
    > >The IEEE-SA formed these guidelines (you could think of them
    > as Design
    > >Rules) for us so as to provide a framework where we can operate as a
    > >standards group while remaining at all times in compliance with the
    > >laws of the United States.
    > >
    > >-- On Mar 23 2004 at 10:48, Alec Stanculescu sent a message:
    > > > To: alec@f4.fintronic.com, btf@boyd.com, vfv@eda.org
    > > > Subject: "Apology!"
    > > > Cliff,
    > > >
    > > > After apologizing, you included the offending statements for a
    > >second
    > > > round of distribution!
    > > >
    > > > And, just to keep the record straight, are you stating
    > that you never
    > > > received money from any company selling EDA tools?
    > > >
    > > > Alec Stanculescu
    > > >
    > > > > Hi, All -
    > > > >
    > > > > My bad! I don't work for an company that sells EDA
    > tools and I
    > > > > forgot the new bylaws that forbid mention of companies and
    > > > > product plans. I will refrain from mentioning companies in
    > > > > future discussions.
    > > > >
    > > > > I hope the issues I raised do not get lost in my
    > poor presentation
    > > of same.
    > > > >
    > > > > Sorry, all!
    > > > >
    > > > > Regards - Cliff
    > > > >
    > > > > At 06:49 AM 3/23/2004, Michael McNamara wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > >-- On Mar 18 2004 at 18:01, Clifford E. Cummings
    > sent a message:
    > > > > > > To: btf@boyd.com, vfv@eda.org
    > > > > > > Subject: "RE: PSL: Attributes for Verilog and
    > SystemVerilog"
    > > > > > > Hi, All -
    > > > > >...
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------
    > Cliff Cummings - Sunburst Design, Inc.
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    > Phone: 503-641-8446 / FAX: 503-641-8486
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    >
    >
    >

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