Re: Comments on events at NesCom meeting

From: Alec Stanculescu (alec@fintronic.com)
Date: Thu Jun 24 2004 - 10:33:49 PDT

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    Victor,

    Well stated. There was nothing wrong with Mac's actions at the NESCOM
    meeting!

    Best regards,

    Alec

    > Peter, Dennis,
    >
    > I have been catching up on this thread since getting back from the
    > NESCOM meeting yesterday and have to say that this seems to be blown out
    > of proportion to the actual events that I witnessed at the meeting.
    >
    > I was not aware of Mac's request to conference in members of the P1364
    > WG since I did not have email access at the time but I do not see
    > anything wrong with this. The meeting is open to all interested parties
    > and certainly it is conceivable that members of P1364 would have an
    > interest. The whole event from start to finish took approximately ten
    > minutes and did not seem to bother anyone that I could see in the room.
    > As far as Dennis's and Steve Mill's participation, it was their choice
    > to do so and clearly not necessary but certainly welcome.
    >
    > The questions that Mac posed were, in my mind, legitimate and in no way
    > disruptive. They were issues that we had discussed in the DASC-SC and I
    > think getting clear answers publicly stated in the NESCOM meeting added
    > clarity to the whole procedure. I do not see how having interested
    > parties participate in an open meeting and ask relevant questions can be
    > seen as embarrassing to DASC.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Victor
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-stds-dasc-sc@eda.org [mailto:owner-stds-dasc-sc@eda.org] On
    > Behalf Of Peter Ashenden
    > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:43 AM
    > To: stds-dasc-sc@eda.org
    > Cc: Btf@boyd.com; etf@boyd.com; ptf@boyd.com; 1364@accellera.org;
    > 'Brophy, Dennis'
    > Subject: Comments on events at NesCom meeting
    >
    > Dear colleagues,
    >
    > I am concerned and disappointed at the actions taken by the P1364 Chair
    > at
    > the NesCom meeting. My understanding is that he organized a dial-in for
    > P1364 members to participate and comment on the P1800 proposal.
    > Furthermore, he questioned whether P1800 could be approved ahead of the
    > changes to the P1364 PAR that we agreed to.
    >
    > I view Mac's actions as unprofessional and reprehensible. The DASC-SC
    > agreed on a course of action, and obtained agreement and support from
    > CAG
    > and Accellera officers. Mac's actions and comments to NesCom have
    > undermined the standing of DASC as a sponsor and as a responsible
    > organization.
    >
    > As sponsor for P1364 and P1800, it is the perogative of the DASC,
    > through
    > its Steering Committee, to manage the development of the standards. The
    > P1364 Chair does not represent the position of the DASC-SC.
    >
    > I am directing the P1364 Chair and members not to make representations
    > on
    > P1800 or P1364 to other organizations of IEEE or external bodies without
    > prior consultation and approval of the DASC Steering Committee.
    >
    > My enduring concern is that DASC remain viable as the forum for
    > developing
    > EDA standards within IEEE. I will speak strongly against anything that
    > prejudices that.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Peter Ashenden
    > DASC Chair
    >
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