Minutes from the Errata Task Force Conference Call December 02, 2002 Attendees: 11110000 \ 21109998 / Month 01022002 \ 28413996 / Day aaaaa*aa Steven Sharp aaa-a*aa Karen Pieper a--a-$aa Cliff Cummings aaaaa=-a Shalom Bresticker aa---*aa Stu Sutherland aaaaa*aa Stefen Boyd aaaaa*aa Dennis Marsa a-aaa$aa James Markevitch aaaa-=-a Gordon Vreugdenhil -----*aa Elliot Mednick aaaaa$aa Anders Nordstrom -aaa-$a- Ted Elkind aaa-a*a- Brad Pierce aaaaa*a- Charles Dawson a-aa-$a- Mike McNamara -----*a- Tom Fitzpatrick Anyone who shows up can vote. (* is folks who were able to stay around after the VSG meeting for 9/9. $ was people here before the VSG meeting started on 9/9. = is someone missing for 9/9) Previous minutes: Review of minutes from 11/18/02 meeting. Take the stars off for the voting rights on the ETF because anyone who shows up can vote. 101 is not a PLI issue. Karen moves that we accept the minutes as corrected. Shalom seconds. No opposed. Cliff abstains. James abstains. Passes. Action Item updates: (Pre 11/4/02) Cliff still to analyze issue 9 and 13. (Pre 11/4/02) Issue 28, new proposal from Cliff pending. (11/4/02) Steven will proposing a wording to fix 172. (11/18/02) Stefen will update issues: 15, 155, 174, 63. (Note the passed proposals are marked by **.) Done. (11/18/02) Everyone review issues 20, 12, 53, 59, 89 for the next meeting. (11/18/02) Gord and committee to return with a generate proposal for 113, 17 Waiting for feedback on the original writeup. (11/18/02) Dennis and committee to return with a power operator proposal for 140 Writing a proposal now. (11/18/02) Steven and committee to return with an @* proposal for issues 22, 82, 84 (11/18/02) Evaluating TBD Errata. The tasks are: 1: Classify difficulty: easy/hard 2: Identify Sections/table number/figure number affected 3: Modify subject to make the issue clearer 4: (optionally) provide link to relevant URL archive on boyd.com The assignments are: PLI: 101 17.10.1: $test$plusargs argument This one is not PLI. 167 2001b, 25.13, 25.31: tf_error and tf_message outside checktf There are a bunch of others which are PLI. 68, 69, 71, 91, 95, 120, 158, 167, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188. We will transfer these to the PLI team. Steven 89 Errata: Multiple Attribute Instances in BNF 96 Errata ambiguity in 4.1.12 on the >>> operator 109 Errata 10.3.5: redundancy 114 port style parameter declarations 115 9.8: "block statement" definition (fwd) 116 19, para. 1: Grave accent 117 19.1,19.6,19.9: `unconnected_drive and `celldefine Karen 118 12.3.4: Bad syntax in example 119 2.6.3, Table 1: Octal escape sequences 121 Syntax 12-7 122 19.4, example 2, last two $display lines 123 Fwd: identifier and indexing syntax 124 17.2.4.3: Second sentence for %m should be in own paragraph 126 "nonblocking" spelling Done Shalom 127 9.7.5 - 4th paragraph - pp.140-141 128 10.3.5 Example: ram_model 129 unordered lists 130 17.10.2: Examples - reg declaration syntax error 131 Page iii - 2nd paragraph after "INTRODUCTION" 132 Table numbering 133 Table 12 Precedence rules for operators Done Dennis 137 Fwd: IEEE Std 1364-2001, 19.2 and Annex B -- 'none' keyword 138 IEEE Std 1364-2001, Syntax 19-2 -- formal_argument_identifier 141 19.7: `line number 148 Annex B: 'unsigned' is not really a keyword 149 2.7.4: System tasks and functions 153 Section 12.3.3, A.2.1.2, ouput_declaration is ambiguous 154 A.1.5, attribute ambiguity in non_port_module_items Done Gord 155 A.1.3, module_declaration ambiguous 159 footnote numbering in syntax boxes 165 13.11.1, A.2.1.1 -- reuse task_port_type 166 2001b, 1.4: "Clause 2" missing clause title 169 one more printing problem 170 formatting of bnf non-terminals 172 3.5 Implicit Declarations - moved from #125B Done Anders 173 misc typos 174 3.2.1, A.2.2.3 -- delay_value ambiguous 175 13.2: file_path_spec syntax and related issues 176 12.1.3.2, Example 5: wrong generate name 177 12.1.3.4, Example 8 (again): ba instead of ba[0] 178 9.4.1, A.6.6 -- if_else_if_statement and function_if_else_statement are redundant Done Brad 179 12.3.3 Port declarations 180 14.3.2: "s ' x" 181 4.3, 9.3 -- 12 productions better expressed with 3 182 Syntax 9-8: event_control 184 23.4: "the an" should be "the" 189 12.1, macromodule needs clarification Done (12/2/02) Everyone makes proposals for the assignments above. One proposal per email with the header so that it goes to the correct issue in the database. Send to etf-bugs with "errata/:" as the subject line. No voting until we meet. (12/2/02) Shalom to propose new wording for 174. (12/2/02) Stefen to create an all items in the db page. (12/2/02) Stefen to update errata seen above. We will used the analyzed category to indicate that an issue has a proposal. Issues: Revisit 155: Issue is related to 203. We decided not to revisit the issue. Revisit 174: We redefined a delay value as an identifier. Identifier is very general. Everywhere else in the grammar, we used block identifier or other more specific identifier. In a delay, we could use a more specific identifier. For example, spec_param, parameter, net_identifier, genvar_identifier, and variable_identifier. * Shalom to type up a new proposal. ******************************************************** Pause for the VSG meeting ******************************************************** Issues to address in the next meeting. 174, 20, 12, 53, 59, 89 SV-BC Issues requiring resolution: (ETF issue number : SV-BC issue number) 28: 19-43 85: 19-35 112, 200: 19-21, 19-24, 19-26 63, 174: 19-15 133: 19-1 136: 19-3, 19-5 178: 19-32, 19-33 181: 19-49, 19-52, 19-55 182: 19-31 193: 19-16, 19-17 202: 19-23 Issues with no known corresponding issue number 19-37 ?? 19-45 none yet? 19-47 none yet? 19-58 ?? 19-61 ?? 19-68 ?? Next Meeting is 12/16/02 at 8:30am Pacific.