RE: enhancement/429: Fwd: Enhancement

From: David W. Smith (david.smith@synopsys.com)
Date: Mon Aug 25 2003 - 09:14:07 PDT

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    Greetings,

    Another option is to use verilog.org, which is owned by Accellera, and
    hosted on the same machine as eda.org. This URL would give identity for the
    verilog working group, identify it as an organization and not a company, and
    provide independence. Currently it goes to the same site as eda.org but
    changing this would be easy to handle. Let me know if you want any help in
    getting this arranged.

    Clearly transferring verilog.com to organizational ownership might also be
    useful so that verilog.org and verilog.com point to the same location.

    Regards
    David W. Smith

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-etf@boyd.com [mailto:owner-etf@boyd.com] On Behalf Of Shalom
    Bresticker
    Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:20 PM
    To: Brophy, Dennis
    Cc: etf@boyd.com; 1364@accellera.org
    Subject: Re: enhancement/429: Fwd: Enhancement

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    Sigh!

    Perhaps the easiest is to get these top level pages on eda.org.

    Shalom

    "Brophy, Dennis" wrote:

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    > All,
    >
    > In regards to #2 from Shalom, I think a real solution is needed to
    > know once and for all where the 1364-2005 home is on the web.
    >
    > Recalling the move of eda.org from Synopsys to Stanford University and
    > the transfer of ownership from Synopsys to OVI and now Accellera I
    > think there is a similar situation here.
    >
    > www.verilog.com is a old SureFire owned domain, now a Verisity owned
    > domain name. It is nice to have corporate sponsorship of things like
    > this, but all the old issues that we had with Synopsys' control of
    > eda.org re-emerge. (And please don't try to humor me with an
    > assertion that the Verilog Consulting Services company is the real
    > owner of this domain.)
    >
    > Information being collected by this corporate entity to operate the
    > IEEE group may be an issue for some and was certainly one of the
    > reason to move eda.org away from Synopsys. Assurances of
    > non-misappropriation of information aside, I think it is best that an
    > independent site be established to ensure no such issues exist.
    >
    > In the last 1364 teleconference I asked where the meeting minutes from
    > prior meetings were published. I was told that were to be found in
    > numerous places. The comment that this was the 5th meeting of the
    > 2005 team did not agree with the meeting minutes I had read. In fact,
    > the first organizational meeting of the 2005 team seems to be rather
    > murky as well.
    >
    > Now the last thing one would want to point to is exclusion based on
    > corporate mishandling of information; but such is too easy a case to
    > make here when an arms length arrangement is not even in place.
    >
    > -Dennis
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com
    > [mailto:Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com]
    > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 1:29 PM
    > To: etf@boyd.com
    > Subject: Re: enhancement/429: Fwd: Enhancement
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    > Two small comments:
    >
    > 1. Note that although non-member submissions to e/b/ptf-bugs don't go
    > out on the reflectors, they do enter the database, which is why we
    > have some spam entries there.
    >
    > 2. Is http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html really the home of 1364?
    > I don't think so. I think it's our boyd.com address, and I think
    > eda.org points to it, but actually eda.org is also not an IEEE web
    > site, so it also has no official standing.
    >
    > Shalom
    >
    > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Stefen Boyd wrote:
    >
    > > The following bounced (anti-spam measure) because Yaron
    > > was not on any of the reflectors (you're invited to participate!):
    > >
    > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > -----
    > >
    > > In http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html, which is the home of
    > > Verilog 1364 (and the IEEE P1364-2005 project), I read:
    > >
    > > >If you'd like to point out a problem with the Standard, or suggest an
    > > >improvement to the Standard, you can email your suggestion to
    > > >btf-bugs@boyd.com with a subject of Errata or Enhancement, depending
    > > >on whether you are pointing out a problem with the current language
    > > >Reference Manual, or suggesting an improvement.
    >
    > --
    > Shalom Bresticker Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com
    > Design & Reuse Methodology Tel: +972 9 9522268
    > Motorola Semiconductor Israel, Ltd. Fax: +972 9 9522890
    > POB 2208, Herzlia 46120, ISRAEL Cell: +972 50 441478 

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Shalom Bresticker                           Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com
Design & Reuse Methodology                             Tel: +972 9 9522268
Motorola Semiconductor Israel, Ltd.                    Fax: +972 9 9522890
POB 2208, Herzlia 46120, ISRAEL                       Cell: +972 50 441478

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