Minutes of the February 23, 2004 IEEE 1364 WG meeting

From: Michael McNamara (mac@verisity.com)
Date: Mon Feb 23 2004 - 10:28:52 PST

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    Meeting called to order 8:30 February 23rd, 2004

    Administrivia:

    >>> Next meeting is March 22nd, at 8:30 Pacific Time, same number. <<<

     Meetings occur every fouth monday thereafter. Web site is
     http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html

    Attendance:
     Today DASC member (D yes, - no)
     | |
     v v
     Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa D Michael McNamara <verisity>
     Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Steven Sharp <cadence>
     Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Karen Pieper <synopsys>
     Aaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaa- D Shalom Bresticker <motorola>
     Aaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaa-a- D Charles Dawson <cadence>
     Aaaaaaaaa D Francoise Martinolle <cadence>
     Aaaaaa-a---aaaaa-aa- D Stuart Sutherland <sutherland-hdl>
     Aaaaa--aa-a-aaaaaaa- D Stefen Boyd <boyd>
     Aaaa-aaa-aaaa------- D Kurt Baty <wfsdb>
     Aa-aaaa D Ennis Hawk <Jeda>
     Aa-aa-aaa D Dennis Brophy <model>
     Aa-a-aa D Keith Gover
     Aa--aaaa------a--aa- D Tom Fitzpatrick <synopsys>
     A-aaaaaaaaaaaa----aa D Brad Pierce <synopsys>
     A-aa----a D Steven Dovich <cadence>
     A-a D Ronald Goodstein
     A--aaaaa D Alec Stanclulesco <fintronic>
     A------------------ - Yogesh Goel <axis, now verisity>
     -aaaaa-aa-aaaaaaaaaa D James A. Markevitch <Evegreen Technology>
     -aaaaa-aa----------- D Drew Lynch <verisity>
     -aaaa D Richard Ho (rep Curt Widdoes)
     -a---a--a D Karen Bartleson <synopsys>
     --aaaa-----a------- D Mehdi Mohtashemi <synopsys>
     --aaa-----aa-a---aaa - Clifford E. Cummings <sunburst-design>
     --a---a--a--------- - Krishna Garlapati <synplicity>
     ----a--aa-aaaaaaaaaa D Anders Nordstrom <cadence>
     ----a D Atsushi <Jeda>
     -----aa D Don Mills <lcdm-eng.com>
     ------aaa D Jay Lawrence <cadence>
     ------a-aaaaaaaaa-aa D Gordon Vreugdenhil
     ------a D David Smith <synopsys>
     ------a D Dave Rich
     ------a D Chong Guan Tan <verisity>
     ----------aaaaaaaaaa - Dennis Marsa <xilinx>
     ------------------aa - Erich Marchner <cadence>
     -------------------a D Peter Flake <synopsys>

    1) The Chair read the IEEE patent policy presentation,and refers all
       to http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html where a link to the IEEE
       policy is prominent.

    2) Charles moved, and Stefen seconded approval of the minutes of the
       last meeting. None opposed, None abstaion. Minutes approved.

    3) Working Group Editor: No significant changes to report. Latest
       draft is on web site.

    4) e mail archive of Kurt Baty is requested.

    5) Report of ETF task force. Stefen reported on the activities.
       While much progress was made on major issues, there are no motions
       to bring before the VSG.

    6) Report of the BTF: Kurt moves that the VSG accept the extentions
       guidelines as passed by the BTF. Stefen Boyd seconds the motion.
       The guidelines are available on the IEEE Verilog web site on the
       BTF web page.

       Abstain: Karen, Ronald, Brad, Dennis, Keith, Stu, Tom Fitzpatrick
       Approve: Ennis, Alec, Francoise, Kurt, Shalom, Charles, Mac
       Against: none.

       Alec reports that the Prioritation Group is also considering
       requesting that their mandate be extended to cover enhancements
       that are proposed without an associated donation.

       Kurt reports that the BTF's Data sub commiteee has met twice. Next
       meeting is a week from this Thursday. (4-Mar-2004)

    7) Report from PLI task force: making good progress, with newly passed
       proposals:

    Those seeking more information on these issues are directed to
    http://www.boyd.com/1364_btf, where one can access these items by
    issue number. As is usual practice, these matters are presented to
    the VSG by one of the chairs of the task force; discussion ensues; and
    only votes of those opposed or abstain are noted.

    Issue : 284 Made by Charles, Seconded by Stu.
    Amended by Shalom: also delete the work "new" in the sentence.
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 365 Made by Charles, Seconded by Stu.
    Opposed: none
    Abstain: none
    Motion passes

    Issue : 366 Made by Charles, Seconded by Stu.
    Amended by Shalom:

    Delete the words:
     "least rapidly varying dimension and ending with most rapidly varying
     dimension. In the source declaration of the array, this would begin
     with the" from the first five new notes.

    Issue is withdrawn by the task force for further consideration.

    Issue : 341 Made by Charles, Seconded by Stu.

    Issue is withdrawn by the task force for further consideration.

    8) New business. Discussion of how, or if we can talk about behavior
    of existing implementations of the standard in committee meetings.

    Steve Dovich states that it is his belief that each member of the WG
    is free to make proposals to the committee, which can be based on
    their experience and understanding and information. They need to be
    enabled to share such information based on their relationship with the
    source of the information.

    The WG chair (Mac) will contact IEEE counsel to learn how to proceed.

    9) New business. Reconstitution a la DASC rules: Mac reported that he
    is awaiting the minutes of the DASC meeting in order to understand how
    to proceed. Mac believes he has taken the required first steps, and
    once more is known, will share this with the committee.

    Karen moves adjourn.

    10:15 meeting adjourned.

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