Minutes of the April 19, 2004 IEEE 1364 Working Group Meeting

From: Michael McNamara (mac@verisity.com)
Date: Wed Apr 21 2004 - 13:58:06 PDT

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    Meeting called to order 8:30 April 19th, 2004

    Administrivia:

    >>> Next meeting is May 17th at 8:30 Pacific Time, same number. <<<

     Meetings occur every fouth monday thereafter.

     Web site is http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html

     Standing agenda is at http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog-Agenda.html

    Attendance:
     Today DASC member (D yes, - no)
     | |
     v v
     Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa D Michael McNamara <verisity>
     Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Steven Sharp <cadence>
     Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Karen Pieper <synopsys>
     Aaaaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaa- D Shalom Bresticker <motorola>
     Aaaaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaa-a- D Charles Dawson <cadence>
     Aaaaaaaaaaa D Francoise Martinolle <cadence>
     Aaaaaa-aaa-aaaa------- D Kurt Baty <wfsdb>
     Aaaa-a-aa D Keith Gover
     Aaaa--aaaa------a--aa- D Tom Fitzpatrick <synopsys>
     Aaa-aaaaaaaaaaaa----aa D Brad Pierce <synopsys>
     Aaa-a D Ronald Goodstein
     Aaa--aaaaa D Alec Stanclulesco <fintronic>
     Aa-aaaaa-aa-aaaaaaaaaa D James A. Markevitch <Evegreen Technology>
     Aa--aaa-----aa-a---aaa D Clifford E. Cummings <sunburst-design>
     A-aa-aaaa D Ennis Hawk <Jeda>
     A-aa-aa-aaa D Dennis Brophy <model>
     A-a-aa----a D Steven Dovich <cadence>
     A--aaaaa-aa----------- D Drew Lynch <verisity>
     -aaaaaaa-a---aaaaa-aa- D Stuart Sutherland <sutherland-hdl>
     -a-aaaa D Richard Ho (rep Curt Widdoes)
     --aaaaa--aa-a-aaaaaaa- D Stefen Boyd <boyd>
     --a------------------ - Yogesh Goel <axis, now verisity>
     ---a---a--a D Karen Bartleson <synopsys>
     ----aaaa-----a------- D Mehdi Mohtashemi <synopsys>
     ----a---a--a--------- - Krishna Garlapati <synplicity>
     ------a--aa-aaaaaaaaaa D Anders Nordstrom <cadence>
     ------a D Atsushi <Jeda>
     -------aa D Don Mills <lcdm-eng.com>
     --------aaa D Jay Lawrence <cadence>
     --------a-aaaaaaaaa-aa D Gordon Vreugdenhil
     --------a D David Smith <synopsys>
     --------a D Chong Guan Tan <verisity>
     ------------aaaaaaaaaa - Dennis Marsa <xilinx>
     --------------------aa - Erich Marchner <cadence>
     ---------------------a D Peter Flake <synopsys>
     R-------a D Dave Rich <Representing Tom Fitzpatrick>

    1) The Chair read the IEEE patent policy presentation,
       and refers all to http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html where a
       link to the IEEE policy is prominent.

    2) Alec moved, and Charles seconded approval of the minutes of the
       last meeting. None opposed, none abstained. Minutes approved.

    3) Working Group Editor: Nothing to report.

    4) Kurt suggested the need need to plan a Bird of Feather event at DAC. The
       chair solicitied indication of who plans to attend DAC; the
       following members responded in the affirmative: Kurt, Alec, Keith,
       Mac, Dennis, Tom, Ron. The Chair took the action item to arrange a
       Bird of Feather event at DAC.

    6) Kurt asked for guidence on short term plan of action of the group
       with respect to Operating Procedures, and elections. The chair
       proposed a plan to 1) Finalize our review of the Model Operating
       Procedures. 2) Conduct an election according to the procedures.

       Alternatively, assuming time is constrined, we could rviw and
       approve the parts on elections, conduct elections, then finish the
       MOP.

    7) The chair then asked for reports from the Task Forces.
      
    7.1) Karen Pieper, chair of ETF reported: The ETF is working on
         generate proposal, actually refining admendments to the proposal
         already passed by the ETF, but not as yet taken up by the VSG.

    7.2) Steve Sharp: BTF: Datatypes sub group is well underway. BTF is
         putting together the priortization group. Need volunteers for IP
         Encryption group.

         The BTF begged the indulgence of the chair to consider one BTF
         passed issue; the chair granted 3 minutes.

         After some discussion, Issue 538 was approved. Moved by
         Kurt. Second Steve Sharp: Opposed: none. Abstain: none. motion
         passes.

    7.3) Charles: PTF: Working on two or three issues that are close to
         done; will not meet today due to illness and non availability of
         chair & co chair.

    8) Report of activities other than Task Forces

       Our sponser (DASC) has asked us to adopt the suggested Model
       Operation Procedures, perhaps as amended:
       <http://www.dasc.org/procedures/DASC-WG-model-procedures-adopted.pdf>

       Last meeting the group spent the balance of the meeting on this
       issue; and this week picked up where it left off.

       For reference, motions passed at the previous meeting were:

                              ------------------

       It was moved by Shalom that 1364 would choose to remove the
       position of Treasurer. James seconds. Opposed: None. Abstain:
       None. Motion passes.

       Kurt moved that we require attendance at 3 out of the previous 4
       meetings to be enfranchised. Seconded by Tom Fitzpatrick.

       After some discussion, Tom moves to table the motion until we can
       define attendance.

       Kurt then moved to strike the sentence "A member shall be counted
       as participating in a meeting on the basis of email communication
       with the Working Group addressing an item on the published agenda
       or minutes of the meeting." from section 4.1.

            Approve: Shalom Bresticker, Kurt Baty, James Markevitch, Ron
                     Goodstein, Steve Sharp, Richard Ho, Tom Fitzpatrick,
                     Keith Gover, Francoise Martinolle
            Abstain: Karen Pieper, Brad Pierce, Alec Stanclulesco, Charles
                     Dawson
            Opposed: Stuart Sutherland

       Motion Passes

       Stuart then moved, as amended by Kurt, to insert at the end of
       section 4.1 that "A member shall be counted as participating in a
       meeting at the discretion of the Chair, as approved by the
       membership, on the basis of substantive technical email
       communication with the Working Group addressing an item on the
       published agenda or minutes of the meeting."

            Abstain: Ron Goodstein, Brad Pierce
            Opposed: Charles Dawson, Karen Pieper
            Favor: Tom Fitzpatrick, Shalom Bresticker, Stuart Sutherland,
                   Kurt Baty, James Markevitch, Steve Sharp, Richard Ho,
                   Keith Gover, Francoise Martinolle, Alec Stanclulesco.

       Motion Passes

                              ------------------

       The group resumed work at section 4.1, and made the following
       motions:

       Cliff moved to set the required notice for official meetings to be
       30 days in section 5.1 "Holding Meetings" 1. Kurt seconded.

         Opposed: None.
         Abstain: None.
         Motion passes.

       Karen moved, Kurt seconded to fix numbering of section 6.5.

         Opposed: None.
         Abstain: None.
         Motion passes.

       Motion to approve model operation procedures as ammended made by
       Steve Sharp, seconded by Alec Stanclulesco

       In favor: 12 approve, 3 abstain [two Missing In Action]

    V DASC Name
    -----------------------
    - D Dennis Brophy
    - D Ronald Goodstein
    A D Brad Pierce
    A D Karen Pieper
    A D Tom Fitzpatrick
    Y D Alec Stanclulesco
    Y D Charles Dawson
    Y D Clifford E. Cummings
    Y D Drew Lynch
    Y D Ennis Hawk
    Y D Francoise Martinolle
    Y D James A. Markevitch
    Y D Keith Gover
    Y D Kurt Baty
    Y D Shalom Bresticker
    Y D Steven Dovich
    Y D Steven Sharp
    -----------------------
    A D Michael McNamara Chair abstains as vote carried in any case
    -----------------------

       The motion passed. Next step is to submit our changes to the
       DASC-SC for there ratification, which is the Chair's action item.

    9) Then the group took up the next item on the agenda, which was to
       review and consider for approval the activities of the ETF, BTF and
       PTF.

    Those seeking more information on these issues are directed to
    http://www.boyd.com/1364_btf, where one can access these items by
    issue number. As is usual practice, these matters are presented to
    the VSG by one of the chairs of the task force; discussion ensues; and
    only votes of those opposed or abstain are noted.

    ETF issues.

    Issue 197: Karen mocves, Ronald seconds, Opposed: none, Abstain: none.
              Motion passes.

    Issue 522: Brad moves, Karen seconds the motion. Opposed: none, Abstain : none.
              Motion passes.

    Issue 526: Karen moves, Steve seconds the motion. Opposed: none, Abstain : none.
              Motion passes.

    Issue 535: Karen moves, Steve seconds the motion. Opposed: none, Abstain : none.
              Motion passes.

    Issue 536: Karen moves, Steve seconds the motion. Opposed: none, Abstain : none.
              Motion passes.

    Issue 544: Karen moves, Brad seconds the motion.

    Shalom asked that the vote be conducted by role call.
    V DASC Name
    -----------------------
    - D Dennis Brophy
    - D Ronald Goodstein
    Y D Brad Pierce
    Y D Karen Pieper
    Y D Tom Fitzpatrick
    Y D Alec Stanclulesco
    Y D Charles Dawson
    N D Clifford E. Cummings
    Y D Drew Lynch
    Y D Ennis Hawk
    Y D Francoise Martinolle
    Y D James A. Markevitch
    Y D Keith Gover
    Y D Kurt Baty
    Y D Shalom Bresticker
    N D Steven Dovich
    N D Steven Sharp
    -----------------------
    A D Michael McNamara Chair abstains as vote carried in any case

    12 vs 3 Motion passes

    Issue 546: Karen moves, Brad seconds the motion. Opposed: none, Abstain : none.
              Motion passes.

    Issue 552: Karen moves, Brad seconds the motion. Opposed: none, Abstain : none.
              Motion passes.

    At 10:31
    Cliff moves to adjourn.
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