RE: [sv-bc] DataTypes: 11/18/04 Meeting Minutes

From: Mark Hartoog (Mark.Hartoog@synopsys.com)
Date: Thu Nov 18 2004 - 20:21:17 PST

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    Yes, including the var keyword, but not the changes to typedef, which
    are not really part of any proposal (BNF and LRM text) that I have seen.

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-sv-bc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-bc@eda.org]On Behalf Of Kathy
    > McKinley
    > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:45 PM
    > To: Mark.Hartoog@synopsys.COM; mckinley@cadence.com
    > Cc: btf-dtype@boyd.com; sv-bc@eda.org
    > Subject: RE: [sv-bc] DataTypes: 11/18/04 Meeting Minutes
    >
    >
    > Hi Mark,
    >
    > Does your approval extend to the latest proposed changes for
    > the "var" keyword in a variable declaration?
    >
    > Kathy
    >
    > >From: "Mark Hartoog" <Mark.Hartoog@synopsys.com>
    > >To: "Kathy McKinley" <mckinley@cadence.com>
    > >Cc: <btf-dtype@boyd.com>, <sv-bc@eda.org>
    > >Subject: RE: [sv-bc] DataTypes: 11/18/04 Meeting Minutes
    > >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:03:09 -0800
    > >
    > >I think the most recent versions of the data types on wires proposals look
    > >good to me.
    > >
    > >I think the typedef change to omit the type should not be part of the
    > >data types on wires proposal. If people want to pursue this, they can file
    > >a separate item for this.
    > >
    > >> -----Original Message-----
    > >> From: owner-sv-bc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-bc@eda.org]On Behalf Of Kathy
    > >> McKinley
    > >> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:25 PM
    > >> To: Greg.Jaxon@synopsys.COM; mckinley@cadence.com
    > >> Cc: btf-dtype@boyd.com; sv-bc@eda.org
    > >> Subject: Re: [sv-bc] DataTypes: 11/18/04 Meeting Minutes
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Hello Greg,
    > >>
    > >> Thank you for bringing this improper usage to our attention.
    > >> I have changed "comprised" to "composed".
    > >>
    > >> Kathy
    > >>
    > >> >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:04:52 -0800
    > >> >From: Greg Jaxon <Greg.Jaxon@synopsys.com>
    > >> >Organization: //Synopsys/ICBU/HDL Compiler
    > >> >To: Kathy McKinley <mckinley@cadence.com>
    > >> >Cc: btf-dtype@boyd.com, sv-bc@eda.org
    > >> >Subject: Re: [sv-bc] DataTypes: 11/18/04 Meeting Minutes
    > >> >
    > >> >Kathy McKinley wrote:
    > >> >> Replace the paragraph in our proposal that begins
    > >> >> "The effect of this recursive definition is" with the following
    > >> >> two paragraphs:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> The effect of this recursive definition is that a net is comprised
    > >> >> entirely of four-state bits, and is treated accordingly. There is no change
    > >> >> to the Verilog-2005 network semantics. In addition to a signal value, each
    > >>> >> bit of a net shall have additional strength information. When bits of signals
    > >> >> combine, the strength and value of the resulting signal shall be determined
    > >> >> as in Verilog-2005 section 7.10.
    > >> >
    > >> >Just an english usage note:
    > >> >
    > >> > "is comprised entirely of" should probably say "is composed of".
    > >> >
    > >> > Wholes comprise their parts, and it is incorrect to use "comprise"
    > >> > and then leave out some of the parts - so saying "entirely" is redundant.
    > >> >
    > >> >Greg Jaxon

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